This Politics Thursday Nick is joined by National's Minister Paul Goldsmith and Labour's Willie Jackson.

The discussion immediately gets heated with news just dropped that Labour has agreed to support the Fair Trade Agreement with India. 

The panel then get into the alleged five MPs who went up against Prime Minister Luxon and the vote of confidence held within the National caucus this week. 

And Winston Peters - who will he pick? And what do our panel think of his comments against Luxon this week?

Also on the agenda was criticism against Move on order legislation, changes to references to the Treaty in law and ANZAC day plans.

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This Politics Thursday Nick is joined by National's Minister Paul Goldsmith and Labour's Willie Jackson.
The discussion immediately gets heated with news just dropped that Labour has agreed to support the Fair Trade Agreement with India.&nbsp;
The panel then get into the alleged five MPs who went up against Prime Minister Luxon and the vote of confidence held within the National caucus this week.&nbsp;
And Winston Peters - who will he pick? And what do our panel think of his comments against Luxon this week?
Also on the agenda was criticism against Move on order legislation, changes to references to the Treaty in law and ANZAC day plans.
LISTEN ABOVE

Wellingtonians now have the chance to discuss the issues of the day one-on-one with proud local Nick Mills and have a forum to share their ideas, passions and outrages on a daily basis.

You don't find many people more passionate about the capital than Nick, and he comes to Wellington Mornings after decades of success as the man behind some of the city's leading hospitality and entertainment offerings - Spruce Goose, Hummingbird and the Wellington Saints basketball team just to name a few.

Nick's proud of his city but also knows much can be improved on to make Wellington an even better place, and brings an honest, edgy, fun and engaging show to Wellingtonians each weekday from 9 'til midday.

Wellingtonians now have the chance to discuss the issues of the day one-on-one with proud local Nick Mills and have a forum to share their ideas, passions and outrages on a daily basis. You don't find many people more passionate about the capital than Nick, and he comes to Wellington Mornings after decades of success as the man behind some of the city's leading hospitality and entertainment offerings - Spruce Goose, Hummingbird and the Wellington Saints basketball team just to name a few. Nick's proud of his city but also knows much can be improved on to make Wellington an even better place, and brings an honest, edgy, fun and engaging show to Wellingtonians each weekday from 9 'til midday.

Wellingtonians now have the chance to discuss the issues of the day one-on-one with proud local Nick Mills and have a forum to share their ideas, passions and outrages on a daily basis.

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Politics Thursday with Willie Jackson and Paul Goldsmith

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EDITORIAL: Overnight, we’ve learnt that behind closed doors, at the very start of this war in Iran, our own Government wasn’t quite on the same page. 

 And as a New Zealander watching all of this unfold, what I wanted—what I think most of us wanted—was a clear, confident line about where we as a country stand. 

Instead, we’ve got emails, pushback—and a pretty uncomfortable question about who’s actually in charge. 

Because cast your mind back to that first stand-up.  

Prime Minister Christopher Luxon, fronting media, being pushed hard—simple question: does New Zealand support the strikes? 

And he couldn’t give a straight answer. 

He said we “acknowledge” them—but wouldn’t say support, wouldn’t oppose.  

And at the time, that felt messy and unclear.  

It felt, frankly, like a bit of a wobble—and that’s when the questions around his leadership really started to heat up. 

But now—now we’ve got a bit more context. 

Because the emails released under the Official Information Act show that, behind the scenes, Luxon was at least open to shifting New Zealand’s position—looking at aligning more closely with countries like Australia, who explicitly supported the US-led action. 

And at the very same time, Foreign Minister Winston Peters and his team were saying: absolutely not. 

The advice was to hold the line. Stay neutral.  

Don’t move toward explicit support—it would be “imprudent” and against New Zealand’s national interest. 

So now you look back at that  dress disastrous stand-up and you have to ask: was Luxon unclear because he didn’t know what he thought? 
Or was he being pulled in two different directions at once? 

Because that’s a very different story. 

Now, here’s the interesting part.  

The position we ended up with—that careful middle ground of acknowledging but not supporting—actually lines up with public sentiment.  

An Ipsos poll in April showed 87% of Kiwis don’t want military involvement, 83% think it would escalate things further, and about three-quarters don’t think it’s worth higher fuel prices. 

So the outcome? Probably right. 

But the process? That’s where this gets shaky. 

Because what we’ve seen is internal disagreement, emails being released publicly by the Foreign Minister’s office, a late-night Beehive meeting—and an admission from Peters that releasing those emails was a mistake. But Winston Peters doesn’t make mistakes. 

That’s not a Government speaking with one voice. 

And I’ll say this—Winston Peters is experienced, he’s a global operator, and he knows exactly how to play the diplomatic game.  

But when it starts to feel like he’s the one holding the reins, and the Prime Minister is reacting— 

You’ve got to ask the question: 

Who’s actually running the country? 

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EDITORIAL: Overnight, we’ve learnt that behind closed doors, at the very start of this war in Iran, our own Government wasn’t quite on the same page.&nbsp;
&nbsp;And as a New Zealander watching all of this unfold, what I wanted—what I think most of us wanted—was a clear, confident line about where we as a country stand.&nbsp;
Instead, we’ve got emails, pushback—and a pretty uncomfortable question about who’s actually in charge.&nbsp;
Because cast your mind back to that first stand-up. &nbsp;
Prime Minister Christopher Luxon, fronting media, being pushed hard—simple question: does New Zealand support the strikes?&nbsp;
And he couldn’t give a straight answer.&nbsp;
He said we “acknowledge” them—but wouldn’t say support, wouldn’t oppose. &nbsp;
And at the time, that felt messy and unclear. &nbsp;
It felt, frankly, like a bit of a wobble—and that’s when the questions around his leadership really started to heat up.&nbsp;
But now—now we’ve got a bit more context.&nbsp;
Because the emails released under the Official Information Act show that, behind the scenes, Luxon was at least open to shifting New Zealand’s position—looking at aligning more closely with countries like Australia, who explicitly supported the US-led action.&nbsp;
And at the very same time, Foreign Minister Winston Peters and his team were saying: absolutely not.&nbsp;
The advice was to hold the line. Stay neutral. &nbsp;
Don’t move toward explicit support—it would be “imprudent” and against New Zealand’s national interest.&nbsp;
So now you look back at that &nbsp;dress disastrous stand-up and you have to ask: was Luxon unclear because he didn’t know what he thought?&nbsp; Or was he being pulled in two different directions at once?&nbsp;
Because that’s a very different story.&nbsp;
Now, here’s the interesting part. &nbsp;
The position we ended up with—that careful middle ground of acknowledging but not supporting—actually lines up with public sentiment. &nbsp;
An Ipsos poll in April showed 87% of Kiwis don’t want military involvement, 83% think it would escalate things further, and about three-quarters don’t think it’s worth higher fuel prices.&nbsp;
So the outcome? Probably right.&nbsp;
But the process? That’s where this gets shaky.&nbsp;
Because what we’ve seen is internal disagreement, emails being released publicly by the Foreign Minister’s office, a late-night Beehive meeting—and an admission from Peters that releasing those emails was a mistake. But Winston Peters doesn’t make mistakes.&nbsp;
That’s not a Government speaking with one voice.&nbsp;
And I’ll say this—Winston Peters is experienced, he’s a global operator, and he knows exactly how to play the diplomatic game. &nbsp;
But when it starts to feel like he’s the one holding the reins, and the Prime Minister is reacting—&nbsp;
You’ve got to ask the question:&nbsp;
Who’s actually running the country?&nbsp;
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Nick Mills: Is Winston Peters running the coalition?

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It's Politics Thursday and Nick is joined by Labour MP Ayesha Verrall and National MP and Cabinet Minister Mike Butterick.

Emails between Winston Peters and the Prime Minister Christopher Luxon were released by NZ First through the OIA. They show that Peters talked down Luxon over his initial call to support the US strikes on Iran.

There has since been some public beef between the two - Nick asks our politicians who is really in charge with the coalition, and have to gloves truly come off now?

Also on the agenda is Luxon cancelling his scheduled media appearances on Breakfast, alcohol in the beehive and the Maiki Sherman event and when will we see some policy from Labour?

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It's Politics Thursday and Nick is joined by Labour MP Ayesha Verrall and National MP and Cabinet Minister Mike Butterick.
Emails between Winston Peters and the Prime Minister Christopher Luxon were released by NZ First through the OIA. They show that Peters talked down Luxon over his initial call to support the US strikes on Iran.
There has since been some public beef between the two - Nick asks our politicians who is really in charge with the coalition, and have to gloves truly come off now?
Also on the agenda is Luxon cancelling his scheduled media appearances on Breakfast, alcohol in the beehive and the Maiki Sherman event and when will we see some policy from Labour?
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Politics Thursday with Ayesha Verrall and Mike Butterick: Who is leading the coalition?

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/7784f840-c291-422a-924b-ad9000bbad71/clips/1e2e3198-5d36-4c76-8e2d-b43c0007a47e/transcript

A member’s bill from Green MP Kahurangi Carter has passed its first reading in Parliament.

The proposed law would protect people from minor drug charges if they call emergency services for someone experiencing an overdose or bad reaction.

Nick speaks to NZ Drug Foundation Executive Director Sarah Helm to find out more about the bill and its impacts.

Helm says 3 Kiwis die from preventable overdoses each week, and this bill could reduce that.

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A member’s bill from Green MP Kahurangi Carter has passed its first reading in Parliament.
The proposed law would protect people from minor drug charges if they call emergency services for someone experiencing an overdose or bad reaction.
Nick speaks to NZ Drug Foundation Executive Director Sarah Helm to find out more about the bill and its impacts.
Helm says 3 Kiwis die from preventable overdoses each week, and this bill could reduce that.
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NZ Drug Foundation Executive Director Sarah Helm on the Green's Overdose Bill

https://api.omny.fm/orgs/7784f840-c291-422a-924b-ad9000bbad71/clips/52126c99-8965-4aad-a322-b43c00017540/transcript

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